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but seriously, florida officials, have you guys ever been to l.a.? los angeles? really big city, really diverse. we have been getting letters from people who vote in california where they opened tons and tons of polling places that serve much smaller groups of voters than the way you deal with it in florida. in california, for example, they vote at the up in tune society columbarium, they vote in their neighbor's garage. they vote at the headquarters of the venus beach lifeguards in los angeles. what californians do not do, not generally, is stand in line and wait eight hours to vote. after the cake splat of an election in florida and several other states this year, we are watching for ideas about how to fix our broken election system. election law expert rick hassan says we should declare a state like florida an election disaster area and bring in the feds. he says congress should nationalize the elections for every state with voter registration that follows you for life and the option of using your thumbprint as i.d. at the polls. the center for justice is reco
but seriously, florida officials, have you guys ever been to l.a.? los angeles? really big city, really diverse. we have been getting letters from people who vote in california where they opened tons and tons of polling places that serve much smaller groups of voters than the way you deal with it in florida. in california, for example, they vote at the up in tune society columbarium, they vote in their neighbor's garage. they vote at the headquarters of the venus beach lifeguards in los...
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even north florida is in the low 40s this morning. as far as the big storm out west, mostly the worst of it will be in the northern rockies. blizzard warnings for areas of montana. tons of snow out here with lots of strong, gusty winds. the white is the snow already falling. some rain mixing at the higher elevations with the snow. almost the entire state of montana is covered with a good snowfall. the forecast for today, after a cold start, a nice afternoon in the southeast. new england, slow improvement. we will see late day rain in minneapolis. the rest of the country looks okay. through the weekend, that storm heads into the heartland. >> all right. we'll check back in a little bit. >>> peyton's potential pizza payday. headlines are next. >>> plus, the company that vows to hire 100,000 veterans. you're watching "first look" on msnbc. wanna see me get some great deals? it's a new way to get cash back deals, and it's called bankamerideals! i sign into my online banking... click the "cash back deals tab"... and pick the deals i want.
even north florida is in the low 40s this morning. as far as the big storm out west, mostly the worst of it will be in the northern rockies. blizzard warnings for areas of montana. tons of snow out here with lots of strong, gusty winds. the white is the snow already falling. some rain mixing at the higher elevations with the snow. almost the entire state of montana is covered with a good snowfall. the forecast for today, after a cold start, a nice afternoon in the southeast. new england, slow...
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. >> now, if you win florida, you have run the table. did you think it was possible to do that and what made the difference? was it money? was it the amount of volunteers of the pundits in. >> the interesting thing on money, and i think this is a good thing on democracy, there was more money on the other side, particularly at the end of the campaign we saw the republican over $100 millionust in t on tv whic your bosses but not necessarily for democracy and, you know, the greathing about this is that when you think abouthe billionaires, special interests, defeating the president, in turning the house and was not j re-elected but we have more democrats in the house even thou t do they get for money? i bet there are a&l lot of angr volunteers across this country in organization and we executed well. not just off election day but in the year and a half leading up to election day. >> now, you heard senator mcconnell last night saying that, well, the american people voted that they wanted to see certain things basically along partis then boehn
. >> now, if you win florida, you have run the table. did you think it was possible to do that and what made the difference? was it money? was it the amount of volunteers of the pundits in. >> the interesting thing on money, and i think this is a good thing on democracy, there was more money on the other side, particularly at the end of the campaign we saw the republican over $100 millionust in t on tv whic your bosses but not necessarily for democracy and, you know, the greathing...
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by win withing florida, president obama would finish with 332 electoral college votes to romney's 206. that would be the large est marn of victory for an incumbent since 1984. the obama campaign has released video of president obama giving a short speech to a young staff and volunteers at his campaign headquarters in chicago. the emotions of a long campaign come rushing over the president. >> even before last night's results, i felt that the work that i had done in running for office had come full circle. because what you guys have done means that the work that i'm doing is important. i'm really proud of that. i'm really proud of all of you. and what you've -- [ cheers and applause ] >> great moment at end of a long campaign. you'll remember the president also got as by nostalgic and teary during his final campaign rally monday night in des moines, iowa. >>> the man responsible for a horrifying shooting rampage in tucson, arizona, that left six dead and 13 others wounded, including former congresswoman gabrielle giffords, has been sentenced to seven life terms in prison. in a dramatic
by win withing florida, president obama would finish with 332 electoral college votes to romney's 206. that would be the large est marn of victory for an incumbent since 1984. the obama campaign has released video of president obama giving a short speech to a young staff and volunteers at his campaign headquarters in chicago. the emotions of a long campaign come rushing over the president. >> even before last night's results, i felt that the work that i had done in running for office had...
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this is florida. the rules are different here. >> what state leaders now wish they could adopt is what happens in florida stays in florida. >> kerry sanders there, still to come, after the biography is written, what will be the leg legacy from david petraeus? that's ahead. plus, soul searching and lessons learned. we'll talk 20/20 hindsight with the movers of the republican party. that's next on msnbc. ♪ [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even pulsate to gently loosen and break up that sticky plaque with more brush movements than manual brushes and even up to 50% more than leading sonic technology brushes for a superior clean. oral-b power brushes. go to oralb.com for the latest offers. oral-b power brushes. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help tha
this is florida. the rules are different here. >> what state leaders now wish they could adopt is what happens in florida stays in florida. >> kerry sanders there, still to come, after the biography is written, what will be the leg legacy from david petraeus? that's ahead. plus, soul searching and lessons learned. we'll talk 20/20 hindsight with the movers of the republican party. that's next on msnbc. ♪ [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the...
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this is with all these state houses, seen it in ohio, seen it in florida. i mean, it's been an iron fist, how do we fix it? >> i think that's the question, and at the start i'm glad you're covering this. this is not considered always an exciting story. people waiting in line, but it's an important story. it goes to the heart of democracy. we had we had the help america vote act, and it came out of the 2000 reforms with ought frustration over florida. we need federal requirements. we need protection for early vote. we need an ability for the great number of people who want to vote, which by the way, is a good thing, to make sure they have access from the start. i think it goes, i'll say this briefly. it goes to what our democracy is about. if you define it as everyone being able to vote, we were not a democracy in the 17 unz or 1800s. we fund whatever we want to fund in this country. we've had billions go out of a back end of a truck in baghdad. nobody asked any questions whatsoever. this is america, and this is how we treat the taxpayers. they rigged it to
this is with all these state houses, seen it in ohio, seen it in florida. i mean, it's been an iron fist, how do we fix it? >> i think that's the question, and at the start i'm glad you're covering this. this is not considered always an exciting story. people waiting in line, but it's an important story. it goes to the heart of democracy. we had we had the help america vote act, and it came out of the 2000 reforms with ought frustration over florida. we need federal requirements. we need...
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my home state of florida. democrats don't just hold the sena elizabetwa potential superstar laden class of senators including thrwomen incumbents will make upof senatn and the house stays in looming for is s boehnerand good morning fr edition of "the daily todd. ahead this morning, senator elect angusg maine. who he will kau can cuss wh. n . w eltalk about in the future hy.t repubcan party, mike right to my first ads.ud it took president obama ectly 12 minutes longer to win his at nd term than a first 11:12 p.m. we're not even 12 hoursmo that clear t obama term# will face enormous challenges in trng to %resolve the country's if iscal future and create a governing coalition to make that halet's lo a victy winning at least 303 votes tothis hour in florida wh =fpresident leads by it lks like at this moment 50,000 twe thind favor theing to start cnt but those margin of victory was smaller than in b2008. in the end demographics and' n the por n to ctrol of the defend theaucus could stillbers for th president's
my home state of florida. democrats don't just hold the sena elizabetwa potential superstar laden class of senators including thrwomen incumbents will make upof senatn and the house stays in looming for is s boehnerand good morning fr edition of "the daily todd. ahead this morning, senator elect angusg maine. who he will kau can cuss wh. n . w eltalk about in the future hy.t repubcan party, mike right to my first ads.ud it took president obama ectly 12 minutes longer to win his at nd term...
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charlie crist knew florida and he knew florida politics right down to the last rescued sea turtle. shortly crist was a moderate republican and a proud member of the reality-based community as a republican. as florida governors go, governor crist was popular. he carried approval ratings of over 50%. but then something happened to florida governor charlie crist. something happened to his career. in february of 2009, in the worst of the economic crisis with the nation shedding hundreds of thousands of jobs, charlie crist hugged the democratic president, he hugged president obama at an event in fort meyers and said that president obama's economic stimulus plan was going to be good for florida and good for the country. a few months after that, he announced instead of running for governor, he was going to make a bid for the senate. at the time the idea was to keep a republican in that senate seat. charlie crist was popular so he presumably could do that. he could hold that seat for the party. he jumped into the republican primary only to find he was running there against florida house sp
charlie crist knew florida and he knew florida politics right down to the last rescued sea turtle. shortly crist was a moderate republican and a proud member of the reality-based community as a republican. as florida governors go, governor crist was popular. he carried approval ratings of over 50%. but then something happened to florida governor charlie crist. something happened to his career. in february of 2009, in the worst of the economic crisis with the nation shedding hundreds of...
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we're talking about florida. the sunshine state remains too close to call with the president leading the vote at the last check. the final rendering could be close at hand. we just learned this morning that miami-dade elections officials are kouncounting 500 absentee ballots and should be finished sometime today. joining me, congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, also chair of the dnc. we need to dig in and talk about your home state of florida. we talked about it many times this hour. >> my favorite subject. >> you said that florida would be delivered. the coveted electoral votes would go in the president's favor. here we are now, florida the only state not declared. we saw the images of long voting lines in florida. that's going to be ingrained in people's minds. some people waiting up to six hours to vote. it's another checkered dot on florida's voting history. explain where we stand right now with the count and why it's taking so long. how can hindsight be 20/20 moving forward in your state? >> i was confide
we're talking about florida. the sunshine state remains too close to call with the president leading the vote at the last check. the final rendering could be close at hand. we just learned this morning that miami-dade elections officials are kouncounting 500 absentee ballots and should be finished sometime today. joining me, congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, also chair of the dnc. we need to dig in and talk about your home state of florida. we talked about it many times this hour....
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florida, once again, top of the broadcast, president wins florida. we know that the influx of the hispanic voters in places like purple areas helped tremendously. it's an area that george w. bush won four years ago. georgia could even be at play here in the next eight years. i know you wrote an article on this. what are your thoughts on this democrat gra demographic time bomb? >> it's incredible. when you think about that compared to the fact that in places like central florida, for example, the puerto rican community has grown and that makes such a difference in terms of how you talk about policy, immigration, and a lot of us say that when it came to that, the race was won with blinders on. there was not a lot of soshtd sort of talk about how it came to latinos and rhetoric. >> and let's take a look at the other key voting groups here. blacks, no surprise. also, voters under 30. politico this week asked in the gop has become too old, too white, and too male. what does the republican party have to do to become more competitive with these particular g
florida, once again, top of the broadcast, president wins florida. we know that the influx of the hispanic voters in places like purple areas helped tremendously. it's an area that george w. bush won four years ago. georgia could even be at play here in the next eight years. i know you wrote an article on this. what are your thoughts on this democrat gra demographic time bomb? >> it's incredible. when you think about that compared to the fact that in places like central florida, for...
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that was the november surprise in florida that screwed up florida's election so badly. turns out people wanted to vote. nobody saw that coming. they were not prepared. in pinellas county, florida, robocalls were telling people they had until wednesday to vote. they're still arguing how it happened. at first the elections chief blamed the robo call company. no, it's not their fault. somebody in the pinellas elections office colled ntrolled it and today the elections office said they did not realize they were going out and did not want them going out telling them they could vote after election day. it does not help that the officials are partisan with a d or r after their name. the pinellas clerk is a political actor in a political calderon. if those robocalls were sent out by mistake, that is a really serious mistake. if it's not a mistake, that happened on purpose, that is a scandal. in either case, maybe it needs fixing. today, a former mayor of tampa said she was ready to work on reform in florida, her name is pam iorio, considered a possible candidate for governor in
that was the november surprise in florida that screwed up florida's election so badly. turns out people wanted to vote. nobody saw that coming. they were not prepared. in pinellas county, florida, robocalls were telling people they had until wednesday to vote. they're still arguing how it happened. at first the elections chief blamed the robo call company. no, it's not their fault. somebody in the pinellas elections office colled ntrolled it and today the elections office said they did not...
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florida is still outstanding but the president is leading mitt romney there and if that lead holds team obama will have one all but two of the battleground states that went for bush in 2002 and team obama in 2008. team romney was shellshocked. we wept into the evening confident we had a good path to victory. i don't think there was one person who saw this coming. romney was shellshocked. those people just don't watch enough msnbc and have never heard of nate silver. team obama was not shocked by tuesday's result. campaign managers who won a bear hug from the president for his efforts said it came down to a laser focus on the battleground states. 3.7% compared to 20085.3 showing our advantage in the battleground states. how did the campaign manage to keep better margins in the battleground states? >> we got the coop on november 4th on the condition that time not use names and public anything until after election day. in the past month said one official the team had polling data from about 29,000 people in ohio alone. a whopping samp that composed nearly half of one percent of voters ther
florida is still outstanding but the president is leading mitt romney there and if that lead holds team obama will have one all but two of the battleground states that went for bush in 2002 and team obama in 2008. team romney was shellshocked. we wept into the evening confident we had a good path to victory. i don't think there was one person who saw this coming. romney was shellshocked. those people just don't watch enough msnbc and have never heard of nate silver. team obama was not shocked...
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the other thing he didn't mention that they have in florida and ohio is the secretary of state is on their side, who happens to be a very partisan individual. that could be a problem, because we're very, very anxious about an honest voting process. they have done everything they can to discourage voting. it has to be a fair election. we've got to be sure it that's a fair election. we're going to be very aware of that. but people have really gotten excited about this president. the president himself has gotten more excited, which i always like to see. and the third piece about this is the republicans have made some major missteps. it's almost impossible to figure out what mitt romney stands for. you get this sense of passion and i think as you point out, it's really hard to figure out who is mitt romney, this is why the salt lake city gave their endorsement to president obama. so this is mitt romney talking about his moderate self, his self that got along with those democrats in massachusetts and there you get all that fire behind making sure that women don't have the ability to choos
the other thing he didn't mention that they have in florida and ohio is the secretary of state is on their side, who happens to be a very partisan individual. that could be a problem, because we're very, very anxious about an honest voting process. they have done everything they can to discourage voting. it has to be a fair election. we've got to be sure it that's a fair election. we're going to be very aware of that. but people have really gotten excited about this president. the president...
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. >> boy did they ever in florida. that was darlene jones from wftv trying to get an answer from rick scott about this. voters stuck in line for eight hours and more in polling places around the state of florida after governor scott cut the days for early voting and refused to add any of them back when the lines were that long. he says it all worked fine. the right thing happened. florida officials say the lines pop up mostly in big cities with diverse population. they say that as if that's self-explanatory in terms of why you have long lines. but florida officials have you been to l.a.? really big city. we have been getting letters from people who vote in california where they opened tons and tons of polling places that serve much smaller groups of voters than the way you deal with it in florida. in california they vote at the neptune society. they vote in their neighbor's garage. they voted at headquarters of the venice beach lifeguards. californians do not do is stand in line and wait eight hours to vote. after the
. >> boy did they ever in florida. that was darlene jones from wftv trying to get an answer from rick scott about this. voters stuck in line for eight hours and more in polling places around the state of florida after governor scott cut the days for early voting and refused to add any of them back when the lines were that long. he says it all worked fine. the right thing happened. florida officials say the lines pop up mostly in big cities with diverse population. they say that as if...
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jeb bush in florida before him. certainly establishmen time. mellman. others. understood the demographic changes and the republicans need hispanics to be part of the coalition and historic levels ofkq democratic advantage with i african-americans without president obama on the ticket perhaps republicans would have a chance to make a little dent there in the future election as ll. you know those are different groups but in some ways share some of the same issues. some of them anyway. in terms of the economy. on that is came out of the commit polling last night was many more people felt like president obama understood people coming from their perspective. people felt more that he was doing things for the middle class and as far as romney seen less as a candidate of the middle class. so these are things where the republicans more broadly probably need to message, n just to latinos and african-americans but also to whites in the middle class and lower classes. >> to add to the á larger share of the electorate2008 and steve you had something on this too. >> well y
jeb bush in florida before him. certainly establishmen time. mellman. others. understood the demographic changes and the republicans need hispanics to be part of the coalition and historic levels ofkq democratic advantage with i african-americans without president obama on the ticket perhaps republicans would have a chance to make a little dent there in the future election as ll. you know those are different groups but in some ways share some of the same issues. some of them anyway. in terms of...
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it's a move that had florida's top democrats sounding the alarm. debbie wasserman schultz put out a statement saying, "after disenfranchising florida voters by cutting down early voting days and creating extraordinary long lines at polls, governor scott is trying to overturn an election result he disagreed with. governor scott needs to remove himself from the process immediately." it was announced sunday after getting the state to recount the votes in st. luci county, west lost by a wider margin than before. ironically, alan west, the man who channeled mccarthy by saying they were communists, just can't handle democracy. joining me is chairman of the broward county committee is mitch cesar. crazy things continue to happen down in florida. this patrick murphy has won this election. what is the governor up to? >> well, you're right. actually, it seems patrick murphy has won it twice, literally. i find this very surprising because the governor was the king of voter suppression. not only in florida, but across the country. he led the way towards suppre
it's a move that had florida's top democrats sounding the alarm. debbie wasserman schultz put out a statement saying, "after disenfranchising florida voters by cutting down early voting days and creating extraordinary long lines at polls, governor scott is trying to overturn an election result he disagreed with. governor scott needs to remove himself from the process immediately." it was announced sunday after getting the state to recount the votes in st. luci county, west lost by a...
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i never going out to ohio, florida, saw this enthusiasm gap. i think it was in a lot of ways a myth. look unemployment's been high in the black community for 20, 30 years in some districts it's been at 14% even when the country -- >> it wasn't the same. it wasn't the same as '08. >> i'm talking to african-americans on a continual basis. we saw a lot of people, whoever opinions were about barack obama's perform ant for african-americans felt protective toward him and his legacy and in addition to that, incredible anger at these voter suppression tactics, incredible anger and pushback against thicks like voter i.d., i think the florida legislature, taking away of 14 days of early vote was the biggest political mistake. >> miami shortening the hours in the last weekend. >> and the fellow in pennsylvania declaring when the voter i.d. bill is up this is going to went for mitt romney. >> and i think there was a diminution but it wasn't what people thought. >> also complete, you know, the disavowel of minority voters assumption on the part of the romn
i never going out to ohio, florida, saw this enthusiasm gap. i think it was in a lot of ways a myth. look unemployment's been high in the black community for 20, 30 years in some districts it's been at 14% even when the country -- >> it wasn't the same. it wasn't the same as '08. >> i'm talking to african-americans on a continual basis. we saw a lot of people, whoever opinions were about barack obama's perform ant for african-americans felt protective toward him and his legacy and...
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they lost in some swing states like florida and illinois but in the deep parts of the country, their base listens to rush limbaugh. they're not evolving and house republicans are still afraid of being primaried and how they're going to sell that to scared house republicans. >> i have to add something if i may. because a band-aid is not going to work. and adding gonzalez and per rez and juan and maria is not a sustainable solution. i hope what we're seeing as an olive branch is not just a token but we look at the strategic platform of what the party stands for so that it is truly friendly to us brown people. >> let's listen to what david frum said this morning. >> the conservativetor fellowship has been fleeced, exploited and lied to. mitt romney was twisted into pretzels. the people who put the cement shoes on his feet are now blaming him for sinking. >> there's former george w. bush speech writer saying that rush limbaugh and the conservative entertainment complex put cement overshoes on the republican candidate. >> i think he's exactly right. here's the problem. you can't spend 30
they lost in some swing states like florida and illinois but in the deep parts of the country, their base listens to rush limbaugh. they're not evolving and house republicans are still afraid of being primaried and how they're going to sell that to scared house republicans. >> i have to add something if i may. because a band-aid is not going to work. and adding gonzalez and per rez and juan and maria is not a sustainable solution. i hope what we're seeing as an olive branch is not just a...
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. >>> we're back with a disturbing story from jacksonville, florida. a 45-year-old florida man has been charged with murder in the death of a 17-year-old jordan davis who, according to police, michael dunn pulled up to a convenience store last friday and told a group of teenagers in an suv to turn down their music. police say an argument broke out, dunn pulled a gun and fired eight or nine shots. the young man, jordan davis, was in the back seat of the car and died after being shot twice. police say dunn then drove away from the scene. he was arrested the next morning. so the legal process is taking its course. dunn has plead not guilty, claiming he acted in self-defense but police say the teens were unarmed. this happened in florida, the state that brought us the stand your ground law, a law that the nra pushed hard and has now spread across the country it's a law still playing a central role in the trayvon martin case. we will be watching this case very carefully and bring you updates. block stomach acid from splashing up- relieving the pain quickly.
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and it's not just florida p. in arizona, they're still counting more than 300,000 provisional and early ballots. some latino rights groups are worried those votes may end up getting tossed. that's why we went on the road and marched in alabama to protect people from not being suppressed and disenfranchised. i joined
and it's not just florida p. in arizona, they're still counting more than 300,000 provisional and early ballots. some latino rights groups are worried those votes may end up getting tossed. that's why we went on the road and marched in alabama to protect people from not being suppressed and disenfranchised. i joined
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. >> boy did they ever in florida. that was darlene jones from wftv trying to get an answer from rick scott about this. voters stuck in line for eight hours and more in polling places around the state of florida after governor scott cut the days for early voting and refused to add any of them back when the lines were that long. he says it all worked fine. the right thing happened. florida officials say the lines pop up mostly in big cities with diverse population. they say that as if that's self-explanatory in terms of why you have long lines. but florida officials have you been to l.a.? really big city. we have been getting letters from people who vote in california where they opened tons and tons of polling places that serve much smaller groups of voters than the way you deal with it in florida. in california they vote at the neptune society. they vote in their neighbor's garage. they voted at headquarters of the venice beach lifeguards. californians do not do is stand in line and wait eight hours to vote. after the
. >> boy did they ever in florida. that was darlene jones from wftv trying to get an answer from rick scott about this. voters stuck in line for eight hours and more in polling places around the state of florida after governor scott cut the days for early voting and refused to add any of them back when the lines were that long. he says it all worked fine. the right thing happened. florida officials say the lines pop up mostly in big cities with diverse population. they say that as if...
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we saw it in florida, ohio, pennsylvania. if ever there were a need to justify why having interventions like the voting rights act and other laws are in place, we have that. i think there is now clearly an emerging consensus. how extensive it is, we don't know. i think both republicans and democrats saw those eight hour lines and said you can't have this in kabul and baghdad and now you have it in the united states. we have to address that. >> let me ask this. much of it was not happening in the south. it was happening in plea clearance states. is that exactly the reason to do away with preclearance and say, well, you know, if it's happening in ohio and pennsylvania? >> no. i think that this president absolutely has to use the bully pulpit to an extent. he's a former con law professor to explain to the country why this is so vital and important. when they hear things about supreme court cases, illegal things, they check out. >> they glaze over. >> something that affects everyone. it affects women, it disproportionately affect
we saw it in florida, ohio, pennsylvania. if ever there were a need to justify why having interventions like the voting rights act and other laws are in place, we have that. i think there is now clearly an emerging consensus. how extensive it is, we don't know. i think both republicans and democrats saw those eight hour lines and said you can't have this in kabul and baghdad and now you have it in the united states. we have to address that. >> let me ask this. much of it was not happening...
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i mean what is it about florida? >> well, no. the counties would have delivered the vote way before this. now, there may be an automatic recount triggered by the florida statute, but to deliver the initial vote four days later, there's something grievously wrong in florida. and governor scott ought to empanel a bipartisan commission to look at all of florida's election laws. for example, the weekend before, closing the weekend before closing down the early voting in miami. it was an absolute disgrace and embarrassment, an infringement on our right to vote and our ability to vote. florida needs a thorough examination of all of their election laws. >>> all right. let's get to what happened tuesday. your take away, governor, on what happened. how did the president register a decisive win and why did republicans think they had a chance in pa? >> it goes back to the enthusiasm gap, alex. the enthusiasm gap never exested. there's an old saying a tepid vote counts as much as a wildly enthusiastic vote. the president's ground operation,
i mean what is it about florida? >> well, no. the counties would have delivered the vote way before this. now, there may be an automatic recount triggered by the florida statute, but to deliver the initial vote four days later, there's something grievously wrong in florida. and governor scott ought to empanel a bipartisan commission to look at all of florida's election laws. for example, the weekend before, closing the weekend before closing down the early voting in miami. it was an...
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. >> boy did they ever in florida. that was darlene jones from wftv trying to get an answer from rick scott about this. voters stuck in line for eight hours and more in polling places around the state of florida after governor scott cut the days for early voting and refused to add any of them back when the lines were that long. he says it all worked fine. the right thing happened. florida officials say the lines pop upmostly in big cities with diverse population. they say that as if that's self-explanatory in terms of why you have long lines. but florida officials have you been to l.a.? really big city. we have been getting letters from people who vote in california where they opened tons and tons of polling places that serve much smaller groups of voters than the way you dole with it in florida. in california they vote at the nep tune society. they vote in their neighbor's garage. they voted at headquarters of the venice beach lifeguards. californians do not do is stand in line and wait eight hours to vote. after the
. >> boy did they ever in florida. that was darlene jones from wftv trying to get an answer from rick scott about this. voters stuck in line for eight hours and more in polling places around the state of florida after governor scott cut the days for early voting and refused to add any of them back when the lines were that long. he says it all worked fine. the right thing happened. florida officials say the lines pop upmostly in big cities with diverse population. they say that as if...
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democrats here in florida have no infrastructure. they're laousy about turnout in nonpresidential years. you are not going to have this ginormous obama machine. the rick scott race, he has a lot more reason to be optimistic than some democrats think. >> adam smith, who will be chewing on these numbers for years to come, i imagine, and, guess what, i don't think it means florida is out of the battleground. let's not be talking about this. it's just a purplish blue state if you will. adam, thank you much for coming on. >> thanks, chuck. >>> our political panel will be here next. we'll do a little cliff diving and republican soul-searching. but first the white house soup of the day, there's no soup today because the mess is closed to honor veterans day. check our website, rundown.msnbc.c rundown.msnbc.com. doesn't just . it takes some doing. some coordinating. and a trip to the one place with the new ideas that help us pull it all together. from the things that hang and shine... ...to the things that sparkle and jingle. all while saving
democrats here in florida have no infrastructure. they're laousy about turnout in nonpresidential years. you are not going to have this ginormous obama machine. the rick scott race, he has a lot more reason to be optimistic than some democrats think. >> adam smith, who will be chewing on these numbers for years to come, i imagine, and, guess what, i don't think it means florida is out of the battleground. let's not be talking about this. it's just a purplish blue state if you will. adam,...
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appreciate it. >>> florida, it's time for the poli-sci bar. the president leads mitt romney by less than 60,000 votes. they have until noon tomorrow. one of romney's advisers say they are not going to be contesting the results. >>> president obama got a lot of congratulations and a lot of calls for winning. the election including one from chris christie. but there was no phone call to his friend mitt romney. the governor only sent him an e-mail. >>> you want to know what a romney presidency looked like with they gave a preview. a victory rally website pop ped up. it calls him the president-elect. featured bios of him and p pr. >>> steven colbert is still keeping up but isn't sure whether he can weather the storm. >> yes, a nor'easter. a storm so powerful it can wipe out a region's supply of t's and h's. and folks, i'm afraid that this new storm could hurt romney's momentum. i mean, it could slow him down. i mean he already lost the election. that can't help. >> senator ashlee judd? that could be a possibility all the some point. she's not ruli
appreciate it. >>> florida, it's time for the poli-sci bar. the president leads mitt romney by less than 60,000 votes. they have until noon tomorrow. one of romney's advisers say they are not going to be contesting the results. >>> president obama got a lot of congratulations and a lot of calls for winning. the election including one from chris christie. but there was no phone call to his friend mitt romney. the governor only sent him an e-mail. >>> you want to know...
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and in the rewrite tonight, another unarmed black teenage boy is shot dead in florida. and yes, the shooter now claims he was standing his ground oh. that's coming up. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> in the most awkward lunch of the year, president obama broke bread with mitt romney today. gene robinson and anna marie cox join me to discuss how and why such things happen. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! oh...there you go. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! i'm gonna stand up to her! no you're not. i know. you know ronny folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than a witch in a broom factory. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. >>> the framework is -- has b
and in the rewrite tonight, another unarmed black teenage boy is shot dead in florida. and yes, the shooter now claims he was standing his ground oh. that's coming up. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> in the most awkward lunch of the year, president obama broke bread with mitt romney today. gene robinson and anna marie cox join me to discuss how and why such things...
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like i will have an opportunity to serve with patrick murphy who will represent florida. he's been declared the winner in all three counties. he's outside the required margin for recount. unfortunately, congressman west is not conceding and plans a legal battle. but i think this will work out the way the constituents in florida decided, which is that patty murphy should be their representative and they rejected extremism. >> congresswoman, thank you for your time tonight. remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter at "the ed show" and on facebook. we want to know what you think. >>> coming up, president obama's plan to win the first big legislative battle of his second term. stay tuned. you're watching "the ed show" on msnbc. >>> labor unions came out in force for president obama and they are teaming up to spread the president's plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. the steel workers join me next. >>> the right wing freaks out over the resignation of david petraeus. we'll show you the latest conspiracy theories about the ti
like i will have an opportunity to serve with patrick murphy who will represent florida. he's been declared the winner in all three counties. he's outside the required margin for recount. unfortunately, congressman west is not conceding and plans a legal battle. but i think this will work out the way the constituents in florida decided, which is that patty murphy should be their representative and they rejected extremism. >> congresswoman, thank you for your time tonight. remember to...
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because your day is coming. >>> in sarasota, florida, president bush greeted a class of second graders. >> good morning. >> good morning, mr. president. >> at 9:05 a.m., two minutes after the crash of the second plane in new york, an aide interrupted the president to give him the news. >> andrew card whispered to him, quoted, aane hit the second tower. america is under attack, close quote. the president told us his instinct was to project calm, not to have the country see an excited reaction at a moment of crisis. >> this is a difficult moment for america. >> the president made a brief statement before leaving for the airport. >> today we've had a national tredy. two airplanes have crashed into the world trade center in an apparent terrorist attack on our country. >> as the president addressed a stunned nation, the third hijacked plane, american airlines flight 77 from washington to l.a., had been flying 2 undetected for approximately 28 minutes. the faa on that flight.
because your day is coming. >>> in sarasota, florida, president bush greeted a class of second graders. >> good morning. >> good morning, mr. president. >> at 9:05 a.m., two minutes after the crash of the second plane in new york, an aide interrupted the president to give him the news. >> andrew card whispered to him, quoted, aane hit the second tower. america is under attack, close quote. the president told us his instinct was to project calm, not to have the...
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he's at 303, he could be at 330 with florida. it's a squeaker? >> because there is this age of unreality. because conservatives -- >> even after the election's been counted, unreality continues. didn't happen. >> doesn't happen. >> and it will never happen. >> the president's not been re-elected. >> i watched a little bit of a certain network today because i wanted to experience it for myself. if you livet universe they've hermetically sealed themselves inside, barack obama can only be ected through fraud, there are no actualsuppo hypnotized -- >> i so appreciate you explaining this to me. >> they've developed this alternate reality because it feels good. and, unfortunately, they haven't -- there's no adult in that party who can say to the voters on the republican side, you lost this election and here's why. you're too extreme and let me explain to you why that invitens people. there isn't anyone. even mitt romney doesn't have the stature to do it. >> we are watching the first family arriving at the airport in chicago, about to board air force on
he's at 303, he could be at 330 with florida. it's a squeaker? >> because there is this age of unreality. because conservatives -- >> even after the election's been counted, unreality continues. didn't happen. >> doesn't happen. >> and it will never happen. >> the president's not been re-elected. >> i watched a little bit of a certain network today because i wanted to experience it for myself. if you livet universe they've hermetically sealed themselves...
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we have crews up and down the streets from tampa, florida. this is the debris lester holt showed you. this is where we were standing until about three hours before sandy came in. then the surge took out a 350-foot dune. this restaurant is a total mess. one bit of good news today. airport cancellations, flight cancellations down. yesterday we had over 1700, today about 650. 90% of those are at newark, laguardia and jfk. no delays are reported. when you have 500 cancellations at newark, that would cut down on any backlog and delays. also brick township when this a mandatory evacuation in low-lying areas rescinds that at 3:00 p.m. only for the mainland areas. the barrier islands up and down the coast are off limits in jersey. better weather aahead, though, for you in new york city, tamron, and up and down the east coast and in hard-hit areaing this week end. a nice turn-around. >> it adds to just the strangeness of the weather that we've been experiencing or the range of weather that we've been experienci experiencing, mike. you know that better
we have crews up and down the streets from tampa, florida. this is the debris lester holt showed you. this is where we were standing until about three hours before sandy came in. then the surge took out a 350-foot dune. this restaurant is a total mess. one bit of good news today. airport cancellations, flight cancellations down. yesterday we had over 1700, today about 650. 90% of those are at newark, laguardia and jfk. no delays are reported. when you have 500 cancellations at newark, that...
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heath schuler will work for duke energy, jason altmire will become part of florida blue, and geoff davis is forming his own public affairs firm. >>> and here is the must-see video of the day. yes, that's bo, the white house releasing these shots of the first dog checking out all the holiday decorations including a replica of him. you can watch the whole thing on our facebook page. >>> and if you read only one thing this morning, now, i haven't seen it, but apparently there's this reality show about a couple of guys in california who carve impressive sculptures out of trees using chain saws. so a writer at "the new york times" gets a crazy idea and thinks, i wonder if they can teach me to do that over skype. you have got to click on my must read just to see how it all turned out. it's up on our facebook page at facebook/janua facebook/jansi facebook/jansingco. it's amazing what soup can do. starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. just two aleve
heath schuler will work for duke energy, jason altmire will become part of florida blue, and geoff davis is forming his own public affairs firm. >>> and here is the must-see video of the day. yes, that's bo, the white house releasing these shots of the first dog checking out all the holiday decorations including a replica of him. you can watch the whole thing on our facebook page. >>> and if you read only one thing this morning, now, i haven't seen it, but apparently there's...
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. >>> one of the things we saw this year, even in a year it didn't come down to a recount in florida, we did see eight-hour long lines in some places. we saw contested rules, some say, partisan-contested rules around early voting and the availability of voting machines. how long it was going to take people to vote. is there -- as you have championed the idea of reforming the role of money in politics, is there also sort of energy right now for the idea of election reform? there being federal advancement for the states to get their acts together. >> the electoral system is a state function. but in a federal election, we should be able to pass legislation that people should be able to vote and the rest of the long lines are an obstacle. they are a form of voter suppression. whether it's money suffocating the air out of the air waves, whether it's suppressing the vote through regulation or state laws, or it's just telling people that this is poisoning the debate so people throw up my hands, i don't want to vote. all of it is really an obstacle to participation. i'm pursuing this, there s
. >>> one of the things we saw this year, even in a year it didn't come down to a recount in florida, we did see eight-hour long lines in some places. we saw contested rules, some say, partisan-contested rules around early voting and the availability of voting machines. how long it was going to take people to vote. is there -- as you have championed the idea of reforming the role of money in politics, is there also sort of energy right now for the idea of election reform? there being...
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and in the rewrite tonight, another unarmed black teenage boy is shot dead in florida. and yes, the shooter now claims he was standing his ground oh. that's coming up. new prilosec otc wildberry is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray cheese. and jeans made out of sweatpants. so grab yourself some new prilosec otc wildberry. [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar through a preferred network pharmacy like walgreens -- where you'll find 8,000 convenient locations. best of all, this plan has the lowest part d premium in the united states -- only $15 a month. open enrollment ends decemb
and in the rewrite tonight, another unarmed black teenage boy is shot dead in florida. and yes, the shooter now claims he was standing his ground oh. that's coming up. new prilosec otc wildberry is the same frequent heartburn treatment as prilosec otc. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray...
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look who was not on that list, florida. florida was one of those states where it has a tea party governor who is beholden to whatever the tea party wants but he has blinked from this idea of walking away from such things as federal poverty programs because in florida, that was one of those states to amplify martin's point where after the bottom dropped out of the housing market, which is so critical to florida, a lot of middle-class folks found themselves for the first time in their lives going to food pantries, using food stamps. these were folks who were for the first time ever having to go to walmart with an ebt card where the money did not come from employment. a lot of people got very close to this idea of poverty and these governors who are saying no to aid from the federal government, in a lot of cases they think they're just hurting the poor who refuse to get involved and pull themselves up by their boot straps, increasingly they're hurting middle class families who have fall noon poverty through no part of their ow
look who was not on that list, florida. florida was one of those states where it has a tea party governor who is beholden to whatever the tea party wants but he has blinked from this idea of walking away from such things as federal poverty programs because in florida, that was one of those states to amplify martin's point where after the bottom dropped out of the housing market, which is so critical to florida, a lot of middle-class folks found themselves for the first time in their lives going...
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>> yeah, and also i don't think the word florida hurt. >> oh, yeah. >> i mean florida was a little bit important at that time. so all you had to do was say i'm from tampa, and here's a lady you might even expect to be a romney lady. she's sitting in a big mansion, having romney kind of parties going to country clubs and all of a sudden she wants to have lunch in the obama white house. i mean, why not? >> and it happens. you write about an fbi investigation, and to attendant to that that paula broadwell almost became an fbi officer herself, right? >> i'm told that she actually applied, passed a polygraph and they were ready to offer her an appointment. >> she didn't take it because harvard called? >> i don't think it went too well at harvard. she could have been an agent. must have been surreal for her to be standing in her house with fbi agents searching her house and she was just a step away from becoming an agent. >> talk about fredrick humphries, the fbi agent who jill kelley contacted. what's his story? >> what's interesting is that, you know, this is the time where you're not like
>> yeah, and also i don't think the word florida hurt. >> oh, yeah. >> i mean florida was a little bit important at that time. so all you had to do was say i'm from tampa, and here's a lady you might even expect to be a romney lady. she's sitting in a big mansion, having romney kind of parties going to country clubs and all of a sudden she wants to have lunch in the obama white house. i mean, why not? >> and it happens. you write about an fbi investigation, and to...
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. >>> one of the things we saw this year, even in a year it didn't come down to a recount in florida, we did see eight-hour long lines in some places. we saw contested rules, some say, partisan-contested rules around early voting and the availability of voting machines. how long it was going to take people to vote. is there -- as you have championed the idea of reforming the role of money in politics, is there also sort of energy right now for the idea of election reform? there being federal advancement for the states to get their acts together. >> the electoral system is a state function. but in a federal election, we should be able to pass legislation that people should be able to vote and the rest of the long lines are an obstacle. they are a form of voter suppression. whether it's money suffocating the air out of the air waves, whether it's suppressing the vote through regulation or state laws, or it's just telling people that this is poisoning the debate so people throw up my hands, i don't want to vote. all of it is really an obstacle to participation. i'm pursuing this, there s
. >>> one of the things we saw this year, even in a year it didn't come down to a recount in florida, we did see eight-hour long lines in some places. we saw contested rules, some say, partisan-contested rules around early voting and the availability of voting machines. how long it was going to take people to vote. is there -- as you have championed the idea of reforming the role of money in politics, is there also sort of energy right now for the idea of election reform? there being...
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then there's florida. we still haven't called in the presidential race, because of the law that requires an automatic recount if the margin is less than .5%. right now with some of those absentee ballots counted, it is just above the less than .5%. if it gets to that, here's what i can tell you. republicans in the state would like it waived but mitt romney's campaign would have to waive the automatic recount. they don't want to spend the money. >>> now back to the fiscal cliff face-off. president obama and speaker boehner said all the right things about trying to avoid the worst case scenario but both sides also made a to interpo draw some lines. the question is are they in the sand? are they painted? is there going to be easily blown away? we'll see. capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell, you're back. guess what, kelly? there's no vacation. there's no post-election rest. we're diving right in. read between the lines for me here. what did you hear and listen to yesterday? >> i was pacing myself for th
then there's florida. we still haven't called in the presidential race, because of the law that requires an automatic recount if the margin is less than .5%. right now with some of those absentee ballots counted, it is just above the less than .5%. if it gets to that, here's what i can tell you. republicans in the state would like it waived but mitt romney's campaign would have to waive the automatic recount. they don't want to spend the money. >>> now back to the fiscal cliff...
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he said virginia and florida would be tough, as well. did you notice the discordance on the right wing of getting along with the other side? on the one hand, the romney is saying we should get along with the other side saying he could work with a republican congress. of course he can, he's a republican. then you have rupert murdoch trashing the governor of new jersey for the same thing, working with the other side. the times of london endorsed obama, so what's going on with rupert murdoch in this thing? >> i've been shocked how much the christie -- the photos of christie and obama has shaken the republican party. he says look, i think you should be able to compliment the president of the united states when he does a good job. are you surprised that the republicans have been so transparent how shaken they've been by chris christie? >> somebody in the romney camp is so angry at governor christie that they're leaking out the word that the reason he worked on hurricane relief with the president, as if he needed some other motive, is because
he said virginia and florida would be tough, as well. did you notice the discordance on the right wing of getting along with the other side? on the one hand, the romney is saying we should get along with the other side saying he could work with a republican congress. of course he can, he's a republican. then you have rupert murdoch trashing the governor of new jersey for the same thing, working with the other side. the times of london endorsed obama, so what's going on with rupert murdoch in...
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, florida, florida, doesn't matter in terms of the presidency. does it matter? there will be a recount? >> well the way the law works, andrea, point one half of 1%, .5, .5 of 1% automatic recount. unless the losing candidate submits in writing to the secretary of state's office that they don't want one. so everybody's waiting to see what the final count is. our guys, shelly, thinks it was up to .51 which would be just above the automatic. so i think everybody's waiting for it. we've got three more counties. our man in florida, three more counties. let's get that in. should have it in in two days and then we'll find out if it's needed. i know the republican governor there is pressuring, there's pressure on boston, if it qualifies for a recount they would like the romney folks not ask for one. >> well, that's some real reporting. thank you very much, chuck todd, as always. joining me now, chris cillizza, msnbc political analyst. chris cillizza, what about the fiscal cliff and negotiations? what do you think the president is doing and planning and h
, florida, florida, doesn't matter in terms of the presidency. does it matter? there will be a recount? >> well the way the law works, andrea, point one half of 1%, .5, .5 of 1% automatic recount. unless the losing candidate submits in writing to the secretary of state's office that they don't want one. so everybody's waiting to see what the final count is. our guys, shelly, thinks it was up to .51 which would be just above the automatic. so i think everybody's waiting for it. we've got...